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softgil
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 Posted - 05/03/2008 : 12:24:14 PM
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Well, it seems to me that "Technology Preview" releases are how Microsoft names what generally is called Beta and/or RC.
I believe this is not the final release yet. :( |
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DonJones
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Posted - 05/03/2008 : 1:33:05 PM
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| "Technology Preview" means "not yet beta." THIS is the chance to use the product and offer feedback because NOW is the time when they can act on your feedback - once the product hits beta, it's all bug fixes only - no design changes. PowerShell v2 WILL have a beta - later. |
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jjarbo
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Posted - 05/04/2008 : 11:49:19 AM
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| What is MS projecing as the RTM? |
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JSCLMEDAVE
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Posted - 05/04/2008 : 1:37:26 PM
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Don will have a better guess but from what he told us it will be not be anytime soon. However like he stated "THIS is the chance to use the product and offer feedback because NOW is the time when they can act on your feedback." He also mentioned that Microsoft's interest in our feedback for this product, is almost unprecedented. We actually have a chance to make a difference this time. Which is why we should download and TEST the current version as much as possible.
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DonJones
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Posted - 05/04/2008 : 3:56:32 PM
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| MS is not currently projecting an RTM. That is, there is no defined "end date" for the project at this time. However, my personal suspicion is that the CTP phase may last only a few more months before they start earnest beta testing, backporting (many features currently only work in Vista or 2008, although that's not the end desired result), etc - e.g., before it enters "beta" and design changes become difficult to push through. |
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jjarbo
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Posted - 05/04/2008 : 4:47:12 PM
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Ok, this is actually good news for me. I have been on the infrastructure side of the house for 15 years and I have never had the time to learn any scripting (Design and Implementation consulting can keep you REALLy busy) It sounds like this may be the crucial time to jump in and it also sounds like we have plenty of time to learn the current version before V2 comes out. Thanks for the info Tim/Don. |
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DonJones
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Posted - 05/04/2008 : 5:19:57 PM
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| Agreed. And don't think of it as "scripting" - it's not. With only 14 keywords, it's not much of a "language." Think of it as a new command-line shell, not unlike Cmd.exe, with a new batch of "command line utilities" that share a common naming pattern for better consistency. And learning v1 will definitely give you a leg up on v2, which adds a BUNCH of new stuff. And it definitely is crucial - in 5 years, I'm betting the higher-end Windows admins will be the same as their Unix or Cisco or AS/400 counterparts: Command-line jockeys, not GUI pokers. |
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jjarbo
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Posted - 05/05/2008 : 09:36:14 AM
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Don - For lack of a better term, I am a Microsoft Architect (mostly on the infrastructure side). Would you suggest trying to learn a scripting language while learning Powershell or would that be overkill? I know more is always better, but as you know, between Designing/Consulting and doing training...It's tough to find time. However, if you felt it would be vital in the future to know a certain language w/Poweshell, I may take a look at it. Sorry for the incorrect terminology as I am really ignorant on this stuff. |
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DonJones
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Posted - 05/05/2008 : 09:49:23 AM
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Max overkill. Stick with the shell; Microsoft's building this out so that, in time, it'll be the only command-line shell / automation tool you basically need. It'll take a while to get there, but that's the plan. Meantime, it can already serve as a VBScript replacement for anything but a logon script (and it's not far off on that), so there's no need to learn both.
Think of PowerShell as a batch language, not unlike BAT files. You mainly run (very powerful) commands, but you can also string them together in a batch file (a PS1 file to be specific) to automate them, and there's some basic logic capability in the language, just like there is in BAT (only easier). I think of most PowerShell scripts more as "macros" than as "programming."
Hop on ScriptingTraining.com. I've got links to some free Webcasts I did for Microsoft TechNet that might be a good start for you to see what you're dealing with. |
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jjarbo
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Posted - 05/05/2008 : 10:03:42 AM
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| Thanks a million man. I think my family is going to miss me over the next 3 months |
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PowerShell v2 CTP-2
